I just bought a 2007 Best Waroo 11M. I tried it out for the first time at Ready this Sunday. It was everything I had heard it to be except water relaunch. Up to now I have been riding mostly Cabrinha’s Switchblade and Contra, super easy relaunch. I just pull on a back line and it turns up on its side, moves to the wind window and relaunches.
I tried everything I could think of: sheet in sheet out, depower in depower out, pulled on front lines, pulled on back lines, you name it.
The only way I got it to water relaunch was to pull on a back line and bring it as far to the side of the wind window as it would go (not far) and run at it. I had to treat is somewhat like a C kite. It would then flip on its back and start to scoop wind and then launch no problem. I was just so surprised that it would not relaunch by just pulling a back line. The wind was a bit light but I had no trouble riding.
Anybody have suggestions for relaunching a Waroo?
What knot do ya all normally ride on?
Thanks,
Troy
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If you have enough wind, pulling the back line works great if pulled in alot. If the wind is light-pull the back line in, grap the diagonal front line and pull it in 3 to 5 ft and hold it till the kite goes on it's side or if the wind is really light-flip it on its back-put bar out, power stap in & pull on the front lines till airborn (hot launch). Jag
I have the same experience with my Waroo's too (9m, 12, 13) and 16m Bularoo. From what I've read, it seems to be consistant for most Waroo owners.
Light wind launching is difficult for the Waroo and I find it quickest to lay it on it's back as you did and do a more traditional (old style) launch. Unfortunately, this can soemtimes result in a tangled bridal. If the wind is heavier, pulling a rear line works.
I've only flown the Waroo's, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing! Easier relaunch sure would be nice.
Mark
Light wind launching is difficult for the Waroo and I find it quickest to lay it on it's back as you did and do a more traditional (old style) launch. Unfortunately, this can soemtimes result in a tangled bridal. If the wind is heavier, pulling a rear line works.
I've only flown the Waroo's, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing! Easier relaunch sure would be nice.
Mark
In the bottom 15% range with an 07 waroo, it is a bit lacking on the relaunch.
So on a 11m Waroo range 15-32mph it is a bit tough to just pull the back line and have it relaunch... at about 18mph or under over that it is fine.
What I do for relaunch in light wind. -let the bar all the way out then pull in all of the leader line holding on to the lark head. -walk 3 steps at the kite it will slowly move to its back and the kite will move to the wind window. Or pull out a larger kite. I have found even if I get it off the water my ride will lack a lot.
Any "Bow" style kite (TD TD2 Crossbow, Switchblade) will launch perfectly even in the lightest of breezes you will find. So if it's great light wind relaunch you are after look into a True Bow kite. The SLE's take a bit more in the light wind to relaunch. Best Kiteboarding have said that the 2008 Waroo and Nemi's are MUCH better at low end relaunching, We will wait and see.
So on a 11m Waroo range 15-32mph it is a bit tough to just pull the back line and have it relaunch... at about 18mph or under over that it is fine.
What I do for relaunch in light wind. -let the bar all the way out then pull in all of the leader line holding on to the lark head. -walk 3 steps at the kite it will slowly move to its back and the kite will move to the wind window. Or pull out a larger kite. I have found even if I get it off the water my ride will lack a lot.
Any "Bow" style kite (TD TD2 Crossbow, Switchblade) will launch perfectly even in the lightest of breezes you will find. So if it's great light wind relaunch you are after look into a True Bow kite. The SLE's take a bit more in the light wind to relaunch. Best Kiteboarding have said that the 2008 Waroo and Nemi's are MUCH better at low end relaunching, We will wait and see.
I had the same problem with the 9m at the end of the day. I know now why Anna always complains about the waroo relaunch. It sucks. I was super powered but had a tough time getting the kite back into the air. One thing to remember about yesterday is that the thermal effect was very strong. There was very little wind on the surface but a bunch more at the top of the kites reach. That makes relaunch tougher. Well worth it though for the kind of wind you get. That was some amazing stuff yesterday. Running twards the kite and doing a traditional relaunch works great.
Eric
I haven't had too much of a problem relaunching my 2006 Waroos, but I crash them a lot, so I have tons of practice! 
One other tip that I have used is to treat it like my old SS Diesel C kite, reach way up on the outer (back) lines and pull it in and hold it. This will cause the kite to start moving that way and once it gets closer to the side of the window to release that line and quickly pull in on the opposite back line. This will cause it to sort of "hop" and pop up the other end. A little tricky to master the timing and much much easier to do when you can stand too. Worth a shot though.
I have the 2006 Waroo, so not sure if the 2007 is different for relaunching.
I just picked up a 2007 Cab switchbalde 8m for nutty wind days (after Rob H was raving about them for months), so I will see if there is a big difference.
Rock on
Mike N
One other tip that I have used is to treat it like my old SS Diesel C kite, reach way up on the outer (back) lines and pull it in and hold it. This will cause the kite to start moving that way and once it gets closer to the side of the window to release that line and quickly pull in on the opposite back line. This will cause it to sort of "hop" and pop up the other end. A little tricky to master the timing and much much easier to do when you can stand too. Worth a shot though.
I have the 2006 Waroo, so not sure if the 2007 is different for relaunching.
I just picked up a 2007 Cab switchbalde 8m for nutty wind days (after Rob H was raving about them for months), so I will see if there is a big difference.
Rock on
Mike N
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I agree with Avery - the bow kites are way easier to launch. I got an 2006 16 and 12 m waroo last year. I remembering learning to use them on light days and having a hard time relaunching in the winter. On the water someone taught me the trick of pulling the center lines hard and running toward the kite - that seemed to work.
After a blown leading edge due to crappy manufacturing I shifted from the waroos to the T2s (14 and 9m). They are very very easy to launch which is great in light winds. That also means that on a day like last friday when the winds came up to 45 mph it was more difficult to keep it down and pull it in because it wants to relaunch so easily but I'm sure any kite would do that when the winds are much greater than it was meant for.
I'm no kite expert but I've liked the T2s a lot more because:
1) they are much easier to inflate and deflate
2) they are lighter and smaller yet cover more wind range because they feel a lot more stable on higher end of range (eg the 14 has at least as much low end as the 06 16 m waroo). They also seem faster and swifter so on a light day they're easier to make your own wind. They seem to have more on the water adjustability with the sheeting system.
Kevin
After a blown leading edge due to crappy manufacturing I shifted from the waroos to the T2s (14 and 9m). They are very very easy to launch which is great in light winds. That also means that on a day like last friday when the winds came up to 45 mph it was more difficult to keep it down and pull it in because it wants to relaunch so easily but I'm sure any kite would do that when the winds are much greater than it was meant for.
I'm no kite expert but I've liked the T2s a lot more because:
1) they are much easier to inflate and deflate
2) they are lighter and smaller yet cover more wind range because they feel a lot more stable on higher end of range (eg the 14 has at least as much low end as the 06 16 m waroo). They also seem faster and swifter so on a light day they're easier to make your own wind. They seem to have more on the water adjustability with the sheeting system.
Kevin
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