Crossbow and octapus inflation system
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Crossbow and octapus inflation system
I think I saw a Crossbow at the Mille Lacs event set up with some kind of one pump system, can anyone confirm that it was a single point inflation system. I have heard that the crossbow's LE should be inflated a few more psi's than the struts, is this possible with the system I saw? Thanks
I don't think Cabrinha has an octopus system (anyone?). Slingshot and Naish are the only two manufacturers I know of who have adopted this technology. The systems are slightly different, though I haven't heard of any performance differences.
I have heard of people doing one pump conversions, though I think they are quite expensive. Maybe you saw a Crossbow that had had the conversion done to it.
Sure it wasn't a Slingshot Turbo Diesel, the kites are very similar, cept for the obvious logos? There was a Yellow and Black, a Grey and Teal, and a Brown and Orange one. They all have the SS One Pump system. SS recommends pumping to between 6-8 psi for the kite to minimize inversions. They have a gauge on their pumps so it's pretty easy to get the pressure right. There is also clips that allow you to isolate each bladder if you want or need to. So if for example you wanted your LE to be harder or softer than your struts you could easily do that. Never found a need for that though. If you broke a line and wanted to do a self rescue you could clip off the struts, deflate most of the LE and then grab the wingtips and sail yourself to shore.
While there may be some claims to the One Pump improving performance by keeping all the struts the same pressure, I find it's more of a convenience thing. I am not at a level where I can tell if the pressure is different from strut to strut. It is a nice feature in the winter, since you can do the whole thing with your gloves on.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you find out it was a converted kite. Would be a good resource for people looking to have that done.
I have heard of people doing one pump conversions, though I think they are quite expensive. Maybe you saw a Crossbow that had had the conversion done to it.
Sure it wasn't a Slingshot Turbo Diesel, the kites are very similar, cept for the obvious logos? There was a Yellow and Black, a Grey and Teal, and a Brown and Orange one. They all have the SS One Pump system. SS recommends pumping to between 6-8 psi for the kite to minimize inversions. They have a gauge on their pumps so it's pretty easy to get the pressure right. There is also clips that allow you to isolate each bladder if you want or need to. So if for example you wanted your LE to be harder or softer than your struts you could easily do that. Never found a need for that though. If you broke a line and wanted to do a self rescue you could clip off the struts, deflate most of the LE and then grab the wingtips and sail yourself to shore.
While there may be some claims to the One Pump improving performance by keeping all the struts the same pressure, I find it's more of a convenience thing. I am not at a level where I can tell if the pressure is different from strut to strut. It is a nice feature in the winter, since you can do the whole thing with your gloves on.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you find out it was a converted kite. Would be a good resource for people looking to have that done.
Tighe
http://www.windwing.com/FORUM/forum_pos ... TID=725&KW =gbgreen59
Here is a parts list and the name of a place where the parts are availiable. Found it on the WW forum. The kite I saw at Mille Lacs was a blue crossbow and the system was connecting one LE valve to all the strut valves with one tube that was tucked or some how fastened to the LE and then wrapped behind the struts.
Here is a parts list and the name of a place where the parts are availiable. Found it on the WW forum. The kite I saw at Mille Lacs was a blue crossbow and the system was connecting one LE valve to all the strut valves with one tube that was tucked or some how fastened to the LE and then wrapped behind the struts.
Re: Crossbow and octapus inflation system
Looks like you did see a XB with a single point inflation system. Here is what you saw, towards the bottom of this post.jradtke4 wrote:I think I saw a Crossbow at the Mille Lacs event set up with some kind of one pump system, can anyone confirm that it was a single point inflation system. Thanks
http://www.mnkiting.com/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 80d63bba5d
Opps my bad on that one.
jradke-I appologize for assuming you might not be aware of the differences between the brands or even what the SS One Pump was all about.
Reading back over it, it does totally sound like I'm pimping the one pump, but you gotta believe I thought I was just offering info to someone who didn't know. Most of my students have no idea about the various features, kite types or even what brand is which...I should have just looked at the name. Sorry mon.
jradke-I appologize for assuming you might not be aware of the differences between the brands or even what the SS One Pump was all about.
Reading back over it, it does totally sound like I'm pimping the one pump, but you gotta believe I thought I was just offering info to someone who didn't know. Most of my students have no idea about the various features, kite types or even what brand is which...I should have just looked at the name. Sorry mon.
Tighe
There have been a number of one-pump systems adapted to our Crossbows, although none are from Cabrinha.
One-pumps are super convenient but leave the leading edge gasping for air.
Look for this innovation to be addressed and improved upon as kites continue to innovate. I know the issue is front-and-center in a number of think tanks.
ET
One-pumps are super convenient but leave the leading edge gasping for air.
Look for this innovation to be addressed and improved upon as kites continue to innovate. I know the issue is front-and-center in a number of think tanks.
ET
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