this weekend @ mille lacs

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Stroh
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this weekend @ mille lacs

Post by Stroh »

Iwindsurf is showing a litle wind for this weekend. exptl says it will be rideable today... I have tried to kite Waconia the last two sundays and it hasn't worked out to well ( to big of a croud)

I am leaving work in about an hour
ETA 12:00

hope to see some other wind junkies up there

Jon
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Post by Eric P »

Reddy's the call. Hopefully tomorrow rips. I can't wait to try out my new vegas.
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Post by SCOTT RIDOUT »

you got the new Vegas, sweet man sweet, would you mind if I gave it a spin when I'm up there?
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Post by klimber »

a new vegas?

is that the one with the chick siloehette on?
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Post by SCOTT RIDOUT »

God I hope so!!!!
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Post by steveb »

Whats the best beach for kiting on a NW?
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Post by Eric P »

Probably father Hen. It is a bit of a tough launch, really helps t have some help. Also, I've never been there in the middle of a big vacation weekend, so the beach we usually use might be crowded. if that's the case it would have to be experienced riders only, drift launching from the area down wind of the swimming area.

Experimental is saying south west to west in the morning, then switching to a powered North west in the afternoon. Posibility of rain in the morning as well. I think I'll get to Malmo at around noon and ride down to Father Hennipen, hopefully arriving at around three or four, depending on hoe great of spots we find on the way. So far it's Stroh and Klimber planing this with me, anyone else up for an epic kite journey? See you at Malmo if you want to tag along, around 12:00.
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Post by Tighe »

Sounds incredible. I won't be going North this weekend...another choice was made earlier in the week.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE FATHER HENNEPIN ON A STEADY STRONG NORTHWEST!!!

enjoy
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Post by Eric P »

Fun light wind riding today by the way. Lots of goofing off with a my new home made skim board, and 14 vegas. I was actually almost keeping up with Jon when he was on his 20, almost. Kind of funny, expensive new kite, and a super cheap chunk of plywood. Hope everyone has fun on tomorrows winds. Ride on.
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Post by Stroh »

the wind was light but we had alot of fun. the only reason I was able to ride all day was because of erics home-made ply's. his skim made light wind rideing fun, and his "glide Like" board I was powered the whole time. it's incredible what you scarfise to have a rocrer in your board

Tighe, cancel your plans.... when are you going to get another chance to explore the entire west side of milly?????? think about it :lol:

this is also a great chance for the less experienced kiter to experience Da Father on a NW

5 day weekend :D :D :D :D :D

Jon
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WHAT'S YOUR 20 GOOD BUDDY?

Post by JRN »

Stroh, Did you get a new 20? What kind? How about a review? Jim N.
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Post by scottchapman »

:( Sorry I could not join the boys for the down winder. I had to write an offer in the morning. Tom F was driving up and got stuck in the bumper to bumper traffic and called me when I was heading out the door.

We changed gears and went to Waconia. Believe it or not I was right. Everyone went north and there was parking and not to many boats.
Got now nice rides on the 17. Just Tom, Peter Hill and I for kiters.

How was the Big Mille!!! :D
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Post by Mike W »

I timed it pretty well at Father Hennepin. Just as I got the 16 rigged, the wind realy filled in. So I got the 12 ready for action. After some underpowered 12TD kiting, I went to the 16, which was great. Toward the end, I switched to plywood as the wind was really dropping.

Great day!

PS: Tighe, more proof that the 16TD generates significantly more power than the 12TD. I have tested both back-to-back about 5-6 times now in the same conditions. The 12TD has great range, but nothing like extra sail cloth in light air. When the wind drops below a certain threshold, kite speed doesn't matter as much as kite area. You need to try the 16 on a day when the 12 is not well powered to really feel the difference. Until then, your grumping about big kites is purely anecdotal.
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Post by Tighe »

"Until then, your grumping is all anecdotal."

I'm glad you like your 16m Mike. From my experience I only need one kite. Sorry to hear you have to be making kite size choices still. Maybe if you work on your board skills you will find the same...maybe not. ; )
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Post by klimber »

i gotta agree with Tighe

the more and more I fly my 12 crossbow, the less and less I pull out the 16 crossbow

the speed on the 12 bows makes up for the size

12 + 150+ board and you are gold

the only exception i have found is if your launch is directly off ON shore and you need teh power to get upwind quickly
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Post by Mike W »

It depends what you want to do. If maximizing your fun in light air is your goal, then the extra power of the 16 is the ticket-- it does generate more power. If you are happy to be underpowered in the really light stuff, then the 12 will be fine as a one kite quiver. Don't get me wrong, the 12TD has amazing low end, and great range, but it does not have the power of a 16 bow. Smaller folks would be fine with just a 12.
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Post by steveb »

I'M with Mike, 11-12mph you can get some quite decent boosts on a 16m, 12m when you send it you'll put a little more tension in the lines maybe.+ nothing glides like a 16m once you're up there.
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Post by Tom L »

My experience backs up Mike 100%. There are days when I have to switch to my 16m. The difference was night & day. I'll go with the extra sail cloth if I have it.

Klimber, you and Tighe can give us a light wind demo at Malmo on Saturday, with your 12m's.
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Post by Tighe »

Different strokes for different folks. I don't doubt that the 16 may have more grunt. All I was saying is I really enjoy having just one kite that works in all conditions. After over two decades of trying to decide what to rig, not having to make that decision again, is so refreshing.

Having said that, I am interested in the new lightwind bows that are coming out. If they can make them ultra efficient, there may be something there.
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Post by Tighe »

this is turning into a pissing match. I may have started it by poking back at Mike...sorry dude I couldn't resist.

Tip of the day:
If you like what you are riding, don't for a second think there may be something out there better. Try to avoid comparing someone else's session to your own..are they more powered up, or getting more hangtime, etc. If you get in that trap you'll end up broke and probably still wanting something else. It's not about gear. It's about the ride.
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